Comments on PHREADOM: On the willful ignorance of conspiracy theorists.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/militar...

2007-07-30T23:56:00.000-04:00

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=4

Even Popular Mechanic is in on it!!!! They even managed to convince experts with legitimate credentials.

I believe in some healthy skepticism, but where do you draw the line?

There will never be enough evidence to discount every theory out there, which means that even wrong conclusions can seem right.

As for me I'll keep theories theories before jumping to Joe Schmo's conclusions.

http://www.pierrelemieux.org/artconspire.html

I'm familiar with Occam's Razor.However, many othe...

2007-07-30T22:57:00.000-04:00

I'm familiar with Occam's Razor.

However, many other buildings that were even closer to the towers did not collapse. And even when sky-scrapers take massage amounts of damage, they rarely, if ever, completely collapse as WTC7 did. Just little at the Murrah building that was attacked by Timothy McVeigh.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8e/Murrah_Building_-_Aerial.jpg

A large portion of that building was taken out by high explosives, including a number of the main support beams. Did it collapse? No.

The entire WTC7 building came down simultaneously.

There's another picture I've seen of one of the steel struts in the WTC towers that was cut at an angle that I'd actually like to do more research on. I have a hypothesis that it was simply cut as a part of the clean-up operation and the picture of the melted steel on the angled cut is nothing more than a result of that, with the picture being taken out of chronological context etc.

My point is that fire alone does not cause a sky-scraper to collapse. Nor does a significant amount of structural damage. They don't just completely collapse.

That taken with the fact that the building was farther away from the main towers and suffered less damage than the closer buildings, which did not collapse completely like WTC7 etc... I think it bears closer consideration.

Even more important is the fact that given the testimony of people who were in the bunker with Cheney etc, and the fact that NORAD was ordered to stand down and Cheney spoke of previous knowledge of the attacks and their destinations etc... it seems clear that something more is going on here than the government has told the American people. That lends an air of skepticism to the events at the towers.

Also, look at the buildings between the towers and WTC7 in this image: http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/ground_zero_arial2_ort.jpg

Notice that they have taken tremendous structural damage and are still standing. WTC7, which was behind them, next to buildings that seem to have taken almost no damage, has completely collapsed.

http://911research.com/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/gz_aerial_wtc7.jpg

etc.

It's not hard to understand how the main towers could have collapsed, but this one seems much more improbable. Occam's razor aside, sometimes you have to take a look at all the available information... and what would initially seem the simplest answer no longer becomes quite as relevant or simple.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/911myths/421...

2007-07-30T22:29:00.000-04:00

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/911myths/4213805.html
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9606/wtc7nbc00001az0.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/DiNa2/9-11/WTC7-3.jpg
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http://www.pastpeak.com/clips/wtc7_kink.jpg

Wow, I guess WTC7 was just in tip-top shape before collapsing [end sarcasm]

Don't be afraid to open your mind to new ideas but don't forget Occam's razor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor